, the small businesses. and so i think we need to do a better job at educating people on how the economy works. i mean, i'm learning stuff every day. i'm certainly not an economist, and i don't fully understand it at all, but, you know, there are small businesses that pay income taxes and, you know, if we go and we tax them as individuals, it's going to take money out of their business and, you know, they may have to lay people off. i mean, they may not be able to hire people. i mean, it's a huge -- the economy is very complex, but at the end of the day, like i said, you cannot -- i mean, you're going to run out of other people's money. host: according to this chart we have from the new york daily news and the tax policy center, the president is talking about ending subsidies for the oil industry in claims it would raise $40 billion. is this something that he party could live with? guest: i do not know. everything is on the table right now. like i said before, we have to find some common ground because we cannot continue down this road. so, you know, it is something that i have not seen that,